Post by demon on Jul 11, 2013 22:02:16 GMT -5
I am not going to defend Joe's actions, I will start with that, His actions were out of line. I had told him multiple times not! to land. That being said , I had died and was awaiting pickup in Brylov, as is our standard procedure when we get killed. Joe was on his way to pick me up, and he couldn't hear me on TS while in the Praga, so he was having to type over the global instead. When chatting over type, he has to stop and set to hover so he can type. He had to hover over their base at an altitude of 200+ meters, One of Eurick's posse had ordered him to move or be fired upon, which he couldn't move at the moment because he was trying to get a fix on my location within Brylov so we could set up an LZ for me to get picked up at. He was finally able to move after he finished his message. I do not know the exchanged between Joe and Zia, just that some rather heated words were exchanged.
I had found a suitable open field to get picked up in, There was a small power plant infront of me, and at it was spied a Uh-1H, so I had began to move in to investigate, see if it was by chance, a fresh spawn. Joe was circling to come in to land and pick me up when and I had disconnected right next to it. In that time apparently Eurick's team came in and lifted the Huey before I could get back in the game, moving it out of the power plant entrance and to the right placing items in it to claim it as theirs while they got someone to fly it. Joe had finally landed and had moved up to the chopper as I armed my self, not expecting what to happen. An argument again ensued between out two teams and we were forced to abandon the chopper, announcing that we were going to fly over their base, Not land! or steal! just to count the number of helicopters they had, as they were unwilling to be transparent enough to accurately inform us of their numbers. As before we could bring any complaint to an admin, we needed proof of rules being broken. We had clearly announced our intentions multiple times and were met with much resistance over the global chat, as if they had something they were trying desperately to hide. I had told Joe that he could make a buzzing pass to count the choppers, He opted to put the praga in a low hover and hang in the air..even threatening to land, which i was strongly against. We had been informed that if we landed we would be fired upon, so we hadn't landed, though Joe did touch down for a second before lifting off. once we were informed that STK (Shoot to Kill) I informed them that if fired upon, we would return in kind. Another heated argument ensued, and i ordered Joe to leave the airspace to avoid a confrontation. We returned to our base as the argument raged on, Eurick had stated hat they only have 3, while shortly after, Smelly had stated they had 4. While both are within limits, Their statements are were inconsistant and only fueled the confrontation more as it further escalated. I offered for them to come to our Team Speak to work it out, have open dialogue between our clans. They refused I informed the other party that we would wait till the admins arrived, and even implicitly stated that we wanted to speak directly to the admin before anything and were going to wait till an admin arrived at which point things died down abit. then Eurick left the server and very shortly after, Joe and I were banned, having been denied a direct means to defend our selves, and being relegated to the forums.
It is a crying shame that the entire situation escalated as quickly as it had. If all players involved (including me) had been more willing to work the situation out, This whole confrontation could of been avoided, and should of never happened...from either camp, reflecting badly upon bartertown Server, and both our clans. The Capellen Confederation always has open forums at www.houseliao.com/ and open channels at houseliaovoice.com for any clan that has an issue with our lances, squads, units, and players. And those avenues will always remain open to ensure that confrontations such as these don't occur in the future.
I had found a suitable open field to get picked up in, There was a small power plant infront of me, and at it was spied a Uh-1H, so I had began to move in to investigate, see if it was by chance, a fresh spawn. Joe was circling to come in to land and pick me up when and I had disconnected right next to it. In that time apparently Eurick's team came in and lifted the Huey before I could get back in the game, moving it out of the power plant entrance and to the right placing items in it to claim it as theirs while they got someone to fly it. Joe had finally landed and had moved up to the chopper as I armed my self, not expecting what to happen. An argument again ensued between out two teams and we were forced to abandon the chopper, announcing that we were going to fly over their base, Not land! or steal! just to count the number of helicopters they had, as they were unwilling to be transparent enough to accurately inform us of their numbers. As before we could bring any complaint to an admin, we needed proof of rules being broken. We had clearly announced our intentions multiple times and were met with much resistance over the global chat, as if they had something they were trying desperately to hide. I had told Joe that he could make a buzzing pass to count the choppers, He opted to put the praga in a low hover and hang in the air..even threatening to land, which i was strongly against. We had been informed that if we landed we would be fired upon, so we hadn't landed, though Joe did touch down for a second before lifting off. once we were informed that STK (Shoot to Kill) I informed them that if fired upon, we would return in kind. Another heated argument ensued, and i ordered Joe to leave the airspace to avoid a confrontation. We returned to our base as the argument raged on, Eurick had stated hat they only have 3, while shortly after, Smelly had stated they had 4. While both are within limits, Their statements are were inconsistant and only fueled the confrontation more as it further escalated. I offered for them to come to our Team Speak to work it out, have open dialogue between our clans. They refused I informed the other party that we would wait till the admins arrived, and even implicitly stated that we wanted to speak directly to the admin before anything and were going to wait till an admin arrived at which point things died down abit. then Eurick left the server and very shortly after, Joe and I were banned, having been denied a direct means to defend our selves, and being relegated to the forums.
It is a crying shame that the entire situation escalated as quickly as it had. If all players involved (including me) had been more willing to work the situation out, This whole confrontation could of been avoided, and should of never happened...from either camp, reflecting badly upon bartertown Server, and both our clans. The Capellen Confederation always has open forums at www.houseliao.com/ and open channels at houseliaovoice.com for any clan that has an issue with our lances, squads, units, and players. And those avenues will always remain open to ensure that confrontations such as these don't occur in the future.
